CooperKatz & Company’s vice-president of Client Services discusses the persuasion of the blog and its very integral role in advertising, brand exposure and media relations.
This first installment of the Online Marketing Champions series features
Steve Rubel, vice-president, client services at CooperKatz & Company. Rubel is also widely considered the foremost expert in integrating
Weblogs into traditional consumer and B2B public relations campaigns.
Since joining CooperKatz, he has
managed a diverse array of business-to-business and consumer campaigns for
clients such as the Association of National Advertisers, WeatherBug, Carrier,
Otis Elevator, Canon, the Civic Alliance to Rebuild Downtown New York and France
Telecom, among many others. Rubel also developed CooperKatz & Company's
ExtremeTech America's Fastest Geek campaign, which took home a Silver Sabre
Award.
Rubel also authors the Micro
Persuasion weblog, which tracks
how blogs and participatory journalism are changing the public relations
practice.
In our interview, Rubel discussed the persuasion of the blog and its very
integral role in advertising, brand exposure and media
relations.
eMarketingIQ: Tell us a little bit about your background. How did you get
to where you are now?
Steve
Rubel: I
currently serve as vice president of Client Services at CooperKatz &
Company, a mid-size New York City public relations firm. I joined the agency in
2001. I started my career in PR during the very early boom days of the Internet
at CMP Media, a major high-tech trade magazine publisher, where I worked
on the in-house corporate communications team. Now, I am helping clients weave
weblogs into their ongoing media relations programs.
eMarketingIQ: You run the Micro Persuasion weblog. How did you get hooked
on RSS and blogs, and what made you start the blog?
SR: I have been
following/reading blogs for a couple of years, but it wasn't until sometime last
year that I started to see that they had reached what Malcolm Gladwell calls
The Tipping
Point .
Originally personal journals, blogs had evolved into legitimate
alternative sources of news on niche and micro-niche topics. The publishing
tools became so cost-effective and easy to use that anyone with a passion and
dedication (not to mention some good writing skills) could become an amateur
journalist. I coined the phrase Micro Persuasion because I felt that some of
these sites can have just as much sway on public opinion as larger, more
established media brands.
Take CableNewser
for example. The blog, which tracks the 24-hour news networks, is written by
college student Brian Stelter. He has broken some major stories about CNN. This has helped him
develop a following among media biz insiders, so much so, that CableNewser was
recently acquired by MediaBistro. This illustrates how blogs and RSS feeds (a powerful
publishing platform/distribution channel) are changing the media game. My
interest in RSS naturally flowed from reading lots of blogs and learning that
there was a better way to manage the flood of information.
Folks like Brian represent a big change for the PR industry, so I felt a
need to study it voraciously. Once I felt I had a firm grasp on how blogging
works, I also saw a huge opportunity to help clients roll their own weblogs so
they could engage in a dialogue with audiences in an unfiltered, transparent
environment. These programs were very successful (see below) and it got me even
more hooked.
Finally, a few weeks later, on Sunday, April 18, 2004, I woke up one
morning and launched my blog on a whim. I realized if I am talking to clients
about blogs, well duh, I darn better have one! And now, less than six months
later, I am getting interviewed by folks like you – what does that say about
blogs as PR tools? My experience alone is a microcosmic case study.
eMarketingIQ: What do you think have been the biggest changes in
marketing via the Web, over the past two years most especially in the
e-marketing arena?
SR:
Google
changed everything. It became much easier for consumers to research, find and
buy the products and services they need. Meanwhile, programs like AdWords made it easier
for marketers to target these consumers just at the right moment – when they are
'in-market.'
eMarketingIQ: Of your most recent projects, which one stands out and
why?
SR: The
Association of National Advertisers weblogs stands out the most. The ANA is a 94 year-old
trade association. CooperKatz & Company has been working with the
association for eight years. At the beginning of this year, their execs agreed
to take a chance on the hunches of a certain PR guy who was ranting and raving
about something called "blogs". They felt that blogs could help them communicate
how the trade association is working to address key industry issues facing
marketers. These include legislation to restrict prescription drug advertising,
the annual TV upfront and more. One of the blogs is written by the CEO Bob
Liodice and the other by Dan Jaffe.
When we launched the weblogs the New York
Times covered the launch, which
is highly unusual for a Web site launch. The headline read – "Trade Group Goes
Modern with Blogs." Today, dozens of reporters subscribe to the blog's RSS
feeds. They pull quotes directly from the sites and even link to them in their
e-mail newsletters as if they were news sites.
eMarketingIQ: How
much impact does online marketing make for a product's or business’ success? Is
it the most important way to market a product?
SR: Online
marketing is pivotal for most companies because it meshes three time-tested
marketing methods – branding, direct response and word-of-mouth. It enables
marketers to develop marketing programs that synergize these efforts together
into a cohesive campaign. That said, however, online marketing is not a panacea.
Marketers should keep in mind that the offline world came first and it still
holds a great deal of power, not to mention eyeballs.
eMarketingIQ: What is the most difficult thing to convince your clients
they need to do, marketing wise?
SR: Believe it or
not, it's to blog or not to blog. Blogging is not for everyone just yet and some
organizations still understandably want to have complete control over their
message. This will become easier, but there will always be some companies that
blogging is not right for.
eMarketingIQ: What
do you think marketing folks are missing as far as the Web and its
potential?
SR: Many companies
are missing the opportunity to use the Web to mobilize their customer
evangelists. Every company has raving fans; its brand champions. The Web has
made it easier to find these folks and make them feel loved so they actually
will do your PR for you.
eMarketingIQ: What do you see evolving in the RSS/Weblog industry for
marketing in the upcoming years?
SR: The future of
blog marketing is that it will humanize business.
Do you remember what business was like in the first half of the 20th
Century before the Information Age? I wasn't alive, but my guess is that
business was fairly personal. People actually knew their butcher, their baker,
their candlestick maker and everyone else they transacted with.
With each successive advance in technology, however, corporations became
far more distant impersonal. First it was the phone, then the fax, then of
course the Internet and email. It became harder for us to actually know the
people behind the products and services we use in our everyday lives.
Blogging is significant because it is reversing this trend. It humanizes
business. It gives consumers the ability to see and hear from the people inside
the companies they love (and hate). And it gives companies the ability to do the
same with customers.
In short, the future of blogging is public relations. This is
not PR, but actually relating with the public.